This is The depression help wiki

2011-10-05 [Teufelsweib]: are you a professional?

2011-10-05 [Mortified Penguin]: I am.

2011-10-05 [Teufelsweib]: they sell prescription drugs over at bob's diner? (or do they mix them through the food..)

2011-10-05 [Nioniel]: Mort helps those who help himself.

2011-10-05 [Mortified Penguin]: They're the easiest people to help, after all.

2011-10-05 [Nioniel]: So I've heard.

2011-10-05 [Mortified Penguin]: I help those who help me to help them, because without their help, I'd be helpless to help. *eats a second helping of ramen*

2011-10-06 [Ninja Smurf]: Thats only seven variations and repetitions of the word "help" Mort.. you can do better.

2011-10-06 [kians mummy]: Mort, I have decided to keep you up on the team as you are a good laugh and it may help the depressed people (sorry alians and animals, your'e barred, humans only) as humor can solve everything.

2011-10-06 [Teufelsweib]: can humor also solve my money problem?

also, you should have a disclaimer on here that you're not a professional and not qualified to help people who are actually suffering from any form of depression, as they should go to a doctor.

2011-10-06 [Paul Doyle]: "I'm not a real doctor. I just play one on TV."

2011-10-06 [kians mummy]: How would you know that [Teufelsweib]?

You don't, do you?

2011-10-06 [Teufelsweib]: you don't know whether I know that or not. you don't, don't you?

because you didn't answer my question, there are already enough people out there acting out as professionals trying to help others, while they are unqualified and only harm the other, with all their good intention. if you're not a professional, put out a disclaimer.
neither would a professional claim something like 'humor can solve everything', as when you're suffering depression, it can't. at all. at best humor can solve a bad mood or something.

2011-10-06 [Teufelsweib]: oh, and the fact that you're 20 :)

2011-10-06 [Paul Doyle]: My unqualified, unasked-for recommendation for [Mortified Penguin]: Jump on (or be a stowaway on) the next cargo ship headed for Antarctica (or the Falklands, maybe) where there's lots of penguins. Hit on a female "penguin" that just so happens to be one of your female schoolmates dressed up in an oversized penguin suit. Lustfully chew raw fish together, like Lady and the Tramp sucking spaghetti till they smooch. Don't bother asking your female schoolmate why in the heck she got dressed up like a giant penguin and wound up in Antarctica (or the Falkland Islands). If you do, beware . . . IT'S A TRAP!

2011-10-06 [Mortified Penguin]: That does sound like a trap.

2011-10-07 [kians mummy]: [Teufelsweib] Age doesn't matter, It takes 2 years in uni to get the qualifications so you can start when your 18. :)

2011-10-08 [Doormat]: There are already hotlines around the world that help people deal with depression and thoughts of suicide. This wiki should just list them instead of pretending to be able to help.

I volunteer at a Crisis Center. I would know.

2011-10-08 [Mortified Penguin]: Yeah. This wiki is as bad as those stupid "It Gets Better" videos on Youtube. Those people aren't trained to help depressed gay kids. They should just stop trying and delete their Youtube accounts, so that actual professionals can help.

2011-10-08 [Triola]: I'm not saying the wiki can't help if someone just wants to talk, but I think listing the hotlines would be a good idea. Often people want anonymity when talking about their problems, and ET can offer many things, but not that. But if they needed to talk to someone and this page is what pointed them to one of the depression or suicide hotlines, then that would be a job well done :)

2011-10-10 [Mortified Penguin]: I have yet to receive any help for my crippling depression, my psychosis, my memory loss, my psychosis, my schizophrenia, that guy's dissociative identity disorder, or even my psychosis, which only seems to fuel my depression. Your team is incompetent, Sammie, and I'm going to go abuse prescription drugs because of it.

2011-10-10 [kians mummy]: well [Triola], give me the hotlines from your Country and area and I will put them on the wiki same for you [Doormat]

2011-10-10 [Triola]: Well, for Norway it's
http://www.kirkens-sos.no/
Telephone: (0047) 815 33 300
:)

2011-10-10 [Teufelsweib]: a great idea from [Doormat], the dutch site is https://www.113online.nl/ where you can online chat with professionals about your problem.

2011-10-10 [kians mummy]: Thanks for the edit [Triola], would you like to help in editing the page.

2011-10-10 [Triola]: Yeah, sure, I can help out with editing on occasion, but I don't want to be on the team, just so that's clear, I get enough of that when I'm volunteering >.>

2011-10-10 [kians mummy]: I was going to put you as a part time editor.

2011-10-10 [Triola]: No need to put my name up at all, I'll just stick to the background :)

2011-10-11 [Akayume]: Sammie, I think what is meant by professionals are people who hold degrees in psychology, psychoanalysis, etc. And I'm not sure about Britain, because I do not hail from there, but to be a psychologist it takes four years of Uni here and then at least another four if not six) to be a doctor. (:

2011-10-11 [kians mummy]: It only takes 2 here I think, because most causes that are 4 years or more are ones that are saving lives, protecting the public, or risk of death to yourself.

2011-10-11 [Triola]: Actually, to practice as a psychiatrist in the UK you have to complete a medical degree (5 years), a postgraduate degree in a hospital environment (2 years), and then specialty training in psychiatry (6 years), which means 13 years of education. When it comes to becoming a psychologist that’s a bit different because there are several paths you can take, but in general to be able to practice psychology you need to be registered with the HPC-UK, and the threshold level for entry is at a doctorate, which will definitely take you longer than two years.

2011-10-11 [Akayume]: Mmhmm. There's a lot of Uni work to be a psychiatrist here as well, along with several years of training under someone else (so doing a residency, basically).

2011-10-12 [Mortified Penguin]: Here in Mexico it takes about a week (longer if the cartels raid your classroom).

2011-10-14 [Doormat]: Canada/British Columbia:

Crisis Chat: www.youthinbc.ca
Crisis Line: 604-872-3311
Suicide Line: 1-800-SUICIDE